I don't agree to any Carbon Tax in any form. I don't agree that it is the easiest way, nor the cheapest. We see people from all over the place pushing E.T.S. Why? Because those pushing for it are going to make money. They talk about E.T.S. as exciting, nothing exciting about hiring people are minimum wage to go about measuring carbon and other output on WESTERN businesses in Europe, Australia and US then trading carbon certificates while India, China and Brazil, the top 3 polluters push for 50 years to pollute to "catch up" to G7. New doesn't mean better, exciting or even profitable. Nothing new about trading.
We wouldn't be in the mess if Brazil, India and China didn't deforest half the world. Doesn't help the Africa deforest either. Doesn't help when France talks about leading the way when certain socialist French president's family involved in transportation of illegally logged timber. Doesn't help when Indonesia still slashs and burns forests to clear land for coffee. Doesn't help when China wants no one to measure their Co2.
Doesn't help when Brazil, China and India bash west as racist when they don't practice free or fair trade.
So what if Europe has a carbon tax? If the Green left says jump, that doesn't mean we reply with how high. We should question ANY new tax. Because they lie when they claim only the polutors pay. I never seen any business "absorb" taxation or any other cost increase.
If the carbon tax is so good for Europe, why is Europe in an economic mess?
IF they care so much about the environment and "green living" then why is it the protestors always set fires, cause a riot and cost society billions to clean up the mess. The riots every G7 summit or world leaders meeting or even the protests during Kyoto. Some protests (really they were riots) cost some governments billions in clean-up costs. Money that didn't go to hospitals, schools or even environmental projects.
Real people go clean up messes not protest to force others to clean up for them. Adults try teach their kids put trash in the bin and do the right thing, not lead with their emotions and run riot for attention and blackmail. How can we have renewable industries if the greens keep saying no to dams, logging and even desalination plants. What green jobs when wind farms are made by GE and imported. What green jobs when greens say no to Hydro-electric dams on the Franklin and other rivers because they want the "forest pristine". Funny how these protestors turn politicans are all about getting attention, talk about making achievements for the environment, when really they about lining thier pockets with so called "fund raising". What have these protestors come political activists come politicans really acheived?
What else do you call a protest for money if it not blackmail? Isn't extortion using threat of violence for money black mail? Maybe greenpeace should be declared a terrorist group because of the continued violence at G7 meetings.
China, India, Brazil product 2/3 of the world's pollution. In 50 years they will have covered the planet and rising global temperatures 2 degrees. Then they talk of untold "richs" unlocked from under the ices and so called "new horizons" in jobs and wealth from the tens of millions of tons of oil, gold, tin, copper and coal unlocked from under the ice in Canada, China, Mongolia, Greenland, Antarctica and northern Russia. So I don't believe any scientists when scientists are the people who come up with the green lie. Those sounding the alarm are the ones getting paid to "consult" on green issues, to "measure" polution and "offset it".
It is about money and fame and glory, not green or environment. Only about making a living by elitist few who pat each other on the back at "green awards" and "environmental" conventions and laugh all the way to the bank on the prospects of "day trading" carbon credits in a "new" trading market. Only green living I see is Bob Brown buying future stock in c02 certificates and ripping off the public so he can "retire" to his "modest house" with view of pristine forest while the rest of Australia has to work 5-15 more years to pay off the debt he and his mob of fanatics rung up on the public's purse. A few token jobs, most of them short term. With retraining YOU have pay for. With not everyone, not even half those taking all these training schemes going to get work. Obama hasn't delivered new jobs (except for all the new jobs in China thanks to more factories closing in other parts of the work).
Meanwhile science isn't going to tell you over the next 24 years the output of the sun will increase (google solar cycle), that co2 is natural part of the cycle (photosynthesis), trees not carbon tax reduces co2, but the green scientists are not going tell you if co2 falls too low the planet will cool so fast, no amount of tax is going to stop the ice age. Nor is science going to stop politicians, environmentalists and fanatics partying on the profit and squandering. So more tax is just going to keep them partying on behind closed doors even longer. But they will call it fund raising.
Green should not be political. There is no green party. Those who call themselves greens are fanatics who are running a scam to benefit themselves. Mostly backed by scientists who wants to "study" and not do real work like everyone else.
Really greens want to be political dominating. Using catch phrases, guilt and in some cases terrorism. Riots in London are not the first, nor last. They riots G7 meetings. They helped plot a bombing in Spain to win an election. Unless YOU become a PATRIOTIC Christian and stop been a complacent Sunday (or Saturday) only believer, then liberty is lost.
We wouldn't be in the mess if Brazil, India and China didn't deforest half the world. Doesn't help the Africa deforest either. Doesn't help when France talks about leading the way when certain socialist French president's family involved in transportation of illegally logged timber. Doesn't help when Indonesia still slashs and burns forests to clear land for coffee. Doesn't help when China wants no one to measure their Co2.
Doesn't help when Brazil, China and India bash west as racist when they don't practice free or fair trade.
So what if Europe has a carbon tax? If the Green left says jump, that doesn't mean we reply with how high. We should question ANY new tax. Because they lie when they claim only the polutors pay. I never seen any business "absorb" taxation or any other cost increase.
If the carbon tax is so good for Europe, why is Europe in an economic mess?
IF they care so much about the environment and "green living" then why is it the protestors always set fires, cause a riot and cost society billions to clean up the mess. The riots every G7 summit or world leaders meeting or even the protests during Kyoto. Some protests (really they were riots) cost some governments billions in clean-up costs. Money that didn't go to hospitals, schools or even environmental projects.
Real people go clean up messes not protest to force others to clean up for them. Adults try teach their kids put trash in the bin and do the right thing, not lead with their emotions and run riot for attention and blackmail. How can we have renewable industries if the greens keep saying no to dams, logging and even desalination plants. What green jobs when wind farms are made by GE and imported. What green jobs when greens say no to Hydro-electric dams on the Franklin and other rivers because they want the "forest pristine". Funny how these protestors turn politicans are all about getting attention, talk about making achievements for the environment, when really they about lining thier pockets with so called "fund raising". What have these protestors come political activists come politicans really acheived?
What else do you call a protest for money if it not blackmail? Isn't extortion using threat of violence for money black mail? Maybe greenpeace should be declared a terrorist group because of the continued violence at G7 meetings.
China, India, Brazil product 2/3 of the world's pollution. In 50 years they will have covered the planet and rising global temperatures 2 degrees. Then they talk of untold "richs" unlocked from under the ices and so called "new horizons" in jobs and wealth from the tens of millions of tons of oil, gold, tin, copper and coal unlocked from under the ice in Canada, China, Mongolia, Greenland, Antarctica and northern Russia. So I don't believe any scientists when scientists are the people who come up with the green lie. Those sounding the alarm are the ones getting paid to "consult" on green issues, to "measure" polution and "offset it".
It is about money and fame and glory, not green or environment. Only about making a living by elitist few who pat each other on the back at "green awards" and "environmental" conventions and laugh all the way to the bank on the prospects of "day trading" carbon credits in a "new" trading market. Only green living I see is Bob Brown buying future stock in c02 certificates and ripping off the public so he can "retire" to his "modest house" with view of pristine forest while the rest of Australia has to work 5-15 more years to pay off the debt he and his mob of fanatics rung up on the public's purse. A few token jobs, most of them short term. With retraining YOU have pay for. With not everyone, not even half those taking all these training schemes going to get work. Obama hasn't delivered new jobs (except for all the new jobs in China thanks to more factories closing in other parts of the work).
Meanwhile science isn't going to tell you over the next 24 years the output of the sun will increase (google solar cycle), that co2 is natural part of the cycle (photosynthesis), trees not carbon tax reduces co2, but the green scientists are not going tell you if co2 falls too low the planet will cool so fast, no amount of tax is going to stop the ice age. Nor is science going to stop politicians, environmentalists and fanatics partying on the profit and squandering. So more tax is just going to keep them partying on behind closed doors even longer. But they will call it fund raising.
Green should not be political. There is no green party. Those who call themselves greens are fanatics who are running a scam to benefit themselves. Mostly backed by scientists who wants to "study" and not do real work like everyone else.
Really greens want to be political dominating. Using catch phrases, guilt and in some cases terrorism. Riots in London are not the first, nor last. They riots G7 meetings. They helped plot a bombing in Spain to win an election. Unless YOU become a PATRIOTIC Christian and stop been a complacent Sunday (or Saturday) only believer, then liberty is lost.
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